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Matt123456
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After some hard/software details

Postby Matt123456 » Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:32 pm

Hello, I do not own this box, but I am after a bit of info...

From the trunk info from the main screen, it appears to be a MIPS-EL machine running Linux 2.6.26 ?
I was wondering if any one has tried to successfully compile a kernel module? - is it a main stream version ?

I was wondering, because I might consider adding a Satellite USB Tuner which I would really like a freesat/freeview box in one (without paying £500)

Could anyone tell me about the main chip model numbers (ignoring the flash & ram), and I'm really hoping there are no NEC chips on it :)

Thanks, Matt

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Re: After some hard/software details

Postby Barry The Sprout » Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:37 pm

Simple answer. If you don't have one of these, don't buy one. Unless you pick it up for £50 on EBay.

You would be better off getting an old PC running with XBMC or MediaPortal and then adding tuners to that.

There are photos on the main page of this website showing you what the chips are inside. (http://www.3viewpvr.info/pages/images.htm)

And if there are commands I can run via Telnet that will let you know anything of interest, give me the commands and I'll run them.

What I can't answer is your question about swapping Kernels as I don't work at that level in Linux enough.

It is also very important to note that the side of this product that controls all of the TV Recording, GUI, etc is all closed source which we do not have access to. There is a whizz on this forum who is patching and hacking those binaries to give us a partially stable product. And he has done a Stirling job. But that is mainly of use to those of us stubborn enough to keep the boxes running. (There is a lot of good in this product worth keeping).
No one on this forum has ever worked for 3View CE Ltd, we've no association with that dead company. We just own boxes like you. We're a band of hackers trying to get the hardware we have paid for to work. We are doing this for free in our spare time

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Re: After some hard/software details

Postby Matt123456 » Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:51 am

Barry The Sprout wrote:Unless you pick it up for £50 on EBay.

Haa ha, yeah, that is why I was thinking about getting one :) .
Thanks for your responce.... If you could run a few commands that would be great...

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cat /proc/cpuinfo
cat /proc/version
cat /proc/meminfo | head -2
find /dev    (if it says error try adding 'busybox ' at the beginning)
This will probably produce about 1 page of info....
"find /sys" would be nice but I have a feeling it will create too much stuff on the console...

Thanks

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Re: After some hard/software details

Postby Barry The Sprout » Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:48 am

Here is the output....

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3view ~ >[b]cat /proc/cpuinfo[/b]
system type             : Sigma Designs TangoX
processor               : 0
cpu model               : MIPS 24K V7.12
Initial BogoMIPS                : 332.59
wait instruction        : yes
microsecond timers      : yes
tlb_entries             : 32
extra interrupt vector  : yes
hardware watchpoint     : yes
ASEs implemented        : mips16
shadow register sets    : 1
VCED exceptions         : not available
VCEI exceptions         : not available

SMP8XXX Chip ID         : 8655
SMP8XXX Rev ID          : 5
System bus frequency    : 333000000 Hz
CPU frequency           : 499500000 Hz
DSP frequency           : 333000000 Hz
3view ~ >[b]cat /proc/version[/b]
Linux version 2.6.22.19-31-12 (builds@builds2.hq2.avtrex.com) (gcc version 3.4.3) #1 PREEMPT Tue Aug 16 14:13:54 PDT 2011
3view ~ >[b]cat /proc/meminfo | head -2[/b]
MemTotal:       197824 kB
MemFree:         16180 kB
3view ~ >[b]find /dev[/b]
/dev/3viewfp
/dev/console
/dev/eg0311fp
/dev/em8xxx0
/dev/fb0
/dev/fb1
/dev/fb2
/dev/fb3
/dev/hda
/dev/hda1
/dev/hda2
/dev/hda3
/dev/hda4
/dev/hda5
/dev/hda6
/dev/hda7
/dev/hda8
/dev/hdb
/dev/hdb1
/dev/hdb2
/dev/hdb3
/dev/hdb4
/dev/hdb5
/dev/hdb6
/dev/hdb7
/dev/hdb8
/dev/input
/dev/input/event0
/dev/input/event1
/dev/input/event2
/dev/input/event3
/dev/input/mice
/dev/input/mouse0
/dev/input/mouse1
/dev/ir
/dev/loop0
/dev/loop1
/dev/loop2
/dev/loop3
/dev/mtd0
/dev/mtd1
/dev/mtd10
/dev/mtd11
/dev/mtd12
/dev/mtd13
/dev/mtd14
/dev/mtd15
/dev/mtd2
/dev/mtd3
/dev/mtd4
/dev/mtd5
/dev/mtd6
/dev/mtd7
/dev/mtd8
/dev/mtd9
/dev/mtdblock0
/dev/mtdblock1
/dev/mtdblock10
/dev/mtdblock11
/dev/mtdblock12
/dev/mtdblock13
/dev/mtdblock14
/dev/mtdblock15
/dev/mtdblock2
/dev/mtdblock3
/dev/mtdblock4
/dev/mtdblock5
/dev/mtdblock6
/dev/mtdblock7
/dev/mtdblock8
/dev/mtdblock9
/dev/mtdro0
/dev/mtdro1
/dev/mtdro10
/dev/mtdro11
/dev/mtdro12
/dev/mtdro13
/dev/mtdro14
/dev/mtdro15
/dev/mtdro2
/dev/mtdro3
/dev/mtdro4
/dev/mtdro5
/dev/mtdro6
/dev/mtdro7
/dev/mtdro8
/dev/mtdro9
/dev/mum0
/dev/null
/dev/oprofile
/dev/ptmx
/dev/pts
/dev/pts/0
/dev/random
/dev/roguefp
/dev/sda
/dev/sda1
/dev/sda2
/dev/sda3
/dev/sda4
/dev/sda5
/dev/sda6
/dev/sda7
/dev/sda8
/dev/sdb
/dev/sdb1
/dev/sdb2
/dev/sdb3
/dev/sdb4
/dev/sdb5
/dev/sdb6
/dev/sdb7
/dev/sdb8
/dev/sdc
/dev/sdc1
/dev/sdc2
/dev/sdc3
/dev/sdc4
/dev/sdc5
/dev/sdc6
/dev/sdc7
/dev/sdc8
/dev/sdd
/dev/sdd1
/dev/sdd2
/dev/sdd3
/dev/sdd4
/dev/sdd5
/dev/sdd6
/dev/sdd7
/dev/sdd8
/dev/sde
/dev/sde1
/dev/sde2
/dev/sde3
/dev/sde4
/dev/sde5
/dev/sde6
/dev/sde7
/dev/sde8
/dev/sdf
/dev/sdf1
/dev/sdf2
/dev/sdf3
/dev/sdf4
/dev/sdf5
/dev/sdf6
/dev/sdf7
/dev/sdf8
/dev/sdg
/dev/sdg1
/dev/sdg2
/dev/sdg3
/dev/sdg4
/dev/sdg5
/dev/sdg6
/dev/sdg7
/dev/sdg8
/dev/sdh
/dev/sdh1
/dev/sdh2
/dev/sdh3
/dev/sdh4
/dev/sdh5
/dev/sdh6
/dev/sdh7
/dev/sdh8
/dev/sdi
/dev/sdi1
/dev/sdi2
/dev/sdi3
/dev/sdi4
/dev/sdi5
/dev/sdi6
/dev/sdi7
/dev/sdi8
/dev/sdj
/dev/sdj1
/dev/sdj2
/dev/sdj3
/dev/sdj4
/dev/sdj5
/dev/sdj6
/dev/sdj7
/dev/sdj8
/dev/sg0
/dev/sg1
/dev/sg2
/dev/sg3
/dev/sg4
/dev/sg5
/dev/sg6
/dev/sg7
/dev/sg8
/dev/sg9
/dev/shm
/dev/sigmblocka
/dev/sigmblockb
/dev/sigmblockc
/dev/sigmblockd
/dev/sigmblocke
/dev/sigmblockf
/dev/sigmblockg
/dev/sigmblockh
/dev/sigmblocki
/dev/sigmblockj
/dev/sigmblockk
/dev/sigmblockl
/dev/sigmblockm
/dev/sigmblockn
/dev/sigmblocko
/dev/sigmblockp
/dev/tts
/dev/tty
/dev/ttyS0
/dev/ttyS1
/dev/ttyUSB0
/dev/uir
/dev/urandom
/dev/video0
/dev/video10
/dev/video16
/dev/zero
3view ~ >


And yes, find sys is larger. 135k of output. So attached that as a file here for you.

Even before 3View went bankrupt, there were a few bargains to be had on EBay. I know I picked two up for silly money and well less than the value of the hard disk inside it.
Attachments
findsys.txt
Output from find /sys
(139.73 KiB) Downloaded 98 times
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Matt123456
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Re: After some hard/software details

Postby Matt123456 » Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:53 pm

Thanks for the info, hmmm, it appears to be a duplicate(ish) of a Medialink ML9700 and similar to a WD TV Live ?.
I'm still having a look at the details... but I might avoid it due to not much free memory?.........
Oh, P.S. I would like to avoid using a PC, because of its bootup time/power consumption...

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Re: After some hard/software details

Postby Richp » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:25 pm

Did you manage to build a compiler for this box ??

I tried many times a while ago, and couldnt quite get anything to work.

Oldcodge has a build environment but is reluctant to release it.

Matt123456
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Re: After some hard/software details

Postby Matt123456 » Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:44 pm

Richp wrote:Did you manage to build a compiler for this box ??
Hello, I dont know if this question is for me? but unfortunalty I never did purchase this box. I managed to get my old one up and going.... Also managed to make a little iffy android app for it too :)

However - this is a guess here, but can you use this very old or this odd (download uboot-vx160.tar.gz) compiler and well as the standard gcc one?

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Re: After some hard/software details

Postby Richp » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:24 pm

Hi,

Yes it was for you Matt. I realise your post was a good while ago but I've tried so many things to get a working compiler for this box, I just wondered if you had had any success.

I'll try and give that code you pointed to a go - I manage to get so far but ultimately End up with so may errors compiling gcc etc, that I eventually give up.

Maybe time for another try....

I know oldcodge has a compiler working but he won't send it to me :(

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Re: After some hard/software details

Postby oldcodge » Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:38 pm

Richp wrote:I know oldcodge has a compiler working but he won't send it to me :(

That is a pretty unfair statement.

To package up a redistributable toolchain for the 3view (compiler, assembler, linker, libraries, headers, auto-* tools etc.) is a huge undertaking and I have previously told you I don't have the time to do it.

Are you upset because I won't do that vast amount of work for you, for free?

-codge

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Re: After some hard/software details

Postby Richp » Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:00 am

Ha, no not at all.

I'm not asking you to do anything for free - I know it can take a long long time to put this stuff together - I have spent many hours trying to get something working. I am actually having another go right now as I type this response.

I'm not upset - I'll keep having a go at building them ; but with my limited Linux/mips knowledge its like running around in the dark . It is just frustrating when there is a forum member (you) who obviously has the knowledge and skill to do this, and in fact already has done, but won't make it available. If you don't want to that fine, its up to you. I wasn't asking you to do any *more* work, just let me have a copy of the compiler you said you had already built.

I didn't need it all packaging up nicely and I certainly wouldn't hold you responsible or start complaining if it didn't work ; it was just all the hassle and time I am spending on trying to get this to build might be avoidable if you could have just copied a couple of directories.

We all have jobs to do , and I don't really have much time to spend on this 3view box, but for some reason still do because I find it interesting.

Anyway don't worry about it , I'll keep trying to get this compiler built. I can get binutils and gcc done, just cannot get glibc to build whatever I try.

rich


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